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(News) Bush's Pro-life Stance and Abortion

I'm sorry if this upsets some of you but I'm a big advocate of a woman's right to have an abortion. It really annoys me that certain countries have either made abortion illegal or are in the process of trying to move it that way.

A case in point is the US. George Bush Jnr's feelings on the subject are very well documented, as are his views on contraception and sex education. What annoys me further is that he is trying to enforce this view on other countries and citizens who are not American or living in America. Tying benefits and crucial aid packages to clauses that would prevent them being given to those in need if the country promotes condom use for example!
US Exports Anti_Abortion Policy (BBC News OnLine; Saturday 28th June 2003)

What furthers annoys me about Bush in particular is that whilst he is so 'Pro-life' in regards to abortion he had no problems as Governor of Texas signing execution orders for over 150 people!! That's certainly a very pro-life stand you're taking Mr President. And we'll not go into the thousands of innocents killed in Iraq shall we.......

US Sparks Row at UN Over Abortion (BBC News OnlIne; Monday 28th February 2005)

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ant_girl
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:28 pm (UTC)
Well said. :-)
cookwitch
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:32 pm (UTC)
I agree with you!

Also, as a man, what can he possibly know about being pregnant with an unwanted child? What could he possibly know about being pregnant with a baby that is a result of rape?

NOTHING. Which is about the measure of what's in his head.
ant_girl
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:47 pm (UTC)
I don't know that it's fair to say he can't empathise with situations like that because he's man. I think it's fair to say he can't because he's an insensitve blockhead though.
angusabranson
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
I agree with ant_girl here. Just because he's a man doesn't mean he can empathise completely. Certainly we (men) will never know it exactly as we'll never go through the situation but we can understand and empathise.

The thing that pisses me off (one amongst many it seems...) is that in the case of rape he seems to want to punish the woman for the rest of her (and her familys) life by enforcing a nine-month pregnancy and the ensuing lifetime afterwards. Rape can already destroy peoples lives without forcing them to go through an unwanted pregnancy. People should think about the 'currently' living more as opposed to the 'currently unborn' and take into account what's best for the mother. If a baby is going to destroy someone and their family there is no way it should happen.

Abortion (for whatever reason) is already a traumatic experience for many without making it illegal to boot.
cookwitch
Feb. 28th, 2005 09:07 pm (UTC)
No, not empethise, that's not what I meant. He can empathise all he wants but he won't ever understand - or feel - that pain. It would be nice if we could have an emotional pain generator that we could plug him into for a few days...
ant_girl
Feb. 28th, 2005 09:16 pm (UTC)
Well, I have never felt that pain either, so I don't know any more about it than he does. And hopefully I never will...
mooncadet
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:40 pm (UTC)
nicely put and entirely what i think too. thank you.
jessworld
Feb. 28th, 2005 08:55 pm (UTC)
In reality he's only killing black people who are inferior citizens anyway, cause social problems and don't vote for him.

America bothers me on so many levels I can't even journal it. It is so full of people like the woman I work with. She's your average educated Christian (who got her father to write her thesis) she thinks she's sooo smart and worldly but GOD! She doesn't think gays are awful and just thinks they should admit that it's a sin (like her having sex out of marriage) and ask for forgiveness from Jesus. She also waxes lyrical about how amazing being Christian is and how helping people is what Jesus would have wanted and then can't equate it with socialised health. She is of the opinion the if you get too sick to work and loose your health cover and can't get another job because you are sick then, well you should deal with it because she 'ain't payin' out of her income to support your sick ass! She can't see that it supports her too.

Stupid cow.

Grr Texans.

(Oh and surprisingly sh's the daughter of a GP and a Lawyer and despite being a Bush supporting Texan is half african half brazilian but 100% typical)
pond823
Feb. 28th, 2005 11:35 pm (UTC)
Only thing is that the black vote is swinging towards him because of the fundimentalist christian lobbying...
kittensandsteam
Feb. 28th, 2005 09:15 pm (UTC)
*applauds*
Well said.

I myself am anti-abortion when the child is perfectly healthy, but I'm pro-choice.
It's not because I wouldn't do something or don't like it, everyone has to do like me. And I can very well understand why a woman pregnant after a rape, or in a very bad financial situation, or a teenager (just to give some examples) would choose to have an abortion.
It's a choice they shouldn't take away from these women.

Actually, I just finished watching the French series about the feminists fighting for abortion called "Victoire". I think you should see it, it's a _very_ good series.
corone
Feb. 28th, 2005 09:47 pm (UTC)
Just yes,
to Angus and everyone else who commented.

Why do I feel that we outside the US deserved a right to vote in the American Election,
as the results of said election are having consequences for seemingly everyone else on the planet.

Two and a lot years to go...
mundenlogic
Feb. 28th, 2005 11:06 pm (UTC)
I think that unless you have been through it, you can't really make that choice. Those that have known how indecently you are treated,shame and so on, and now if you are early into a clinic your reward is to be awake whilst they perform the abortion, so as to insure you never want to go through that again ! No President or local Government nor the Church should have this decision. The choice really lies in the hands of the woman or couple! it still takes two as i recall x
pond823
Feb. 28th, 2005 11:33 pm (UTC)
I wonder how Bush-tard would feel if the pro-life groups started murdering republican funding Condom manufacturing executives?

Abortion? My body, my rules. Same applies to you.
bridiep
Mar. 1st, 2005 07:58 am (UTC)
Ironically, some US charity is withdrawing its support for a worldwide HIV-AIDS programme involved in distributing condoms to countries where HIV-AIDS is endemic, allegedly because they say it doesn't work, and they should be advocating absintence instead!

Gods, it would make me larf if it wasn't so goddamn pathetic.
anyeone
Feb. 28th, 2005 11:45 pm (UTC)
I agree 100% about the abortion issue, the ridiculousness of trying to make US law apply to other companies, and Iraq, and about Bush's general status as a complete hypocrite.

Except that I have no problem with killing murderers and rapists and the like. ;)

I do think that the capital punishment system needs to be reformed to better utilize science and DNA evidence to establish guilt though - a lot slips through the cracks here (especially along racial lines) that is completely unacceptable. That said, I see life imprisonment without parole in solitary confinement as an acceptable alternative to the death penalty. As long as it's none of this touchy-feely "reform the ickle criminal" bullshit. Make the bastards suffer!
gabby2600
Mar. 1st, 2005 03:04 am (UTC)
He is so pro-life he is killing hundreds of Iraqis for a bit of exra cash.
silver_blue
Mar. 1st, 2005 08:10 am (UTC)
The whole influence of faith on charity and government aid as being practiced in the US at the moment is quite worrying. While it's all well and good for a leader to hold particular religious beliefs themselves, there seems to be an increasing lack of seperation between church and state in the US.

When aid, whether domestic or foreign, starts being overly influenced by faith rather than empirical evidence of effectiveness, can only be a very bad thing.
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