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Now I'm one of these people who DOESN'T LIKE STAR TREK. Sorry, needed to get that out of my system. The show does nothing for me (well, apart from Tribbles and Borg outfits) and I actually think it's very poor compared to a number of other programs. I'll admit to watching the original series on BBC2 when I was a kid and I saw a few of the earlier films, I even caught a few Next generation episodes I think but none in their entirity I'm fairly sure.... anyway, I'm digressing.....

The fact of the matter is that are there are plenty of MORE WORTHY causes to be raising money for. A group of fans (TrekUnited) is campaigning and trying to raise up to $30 million (or a good chunk thereof) to keep the latest Star Trek incarnation alive ('Enterprise') after it was canned by the US TV Network. Apparently a new season would cost that sum and they are holding meetings all over the world trying to raise the cash and protest at the shows cancellation. They have just received a pledge of $3 million from some people involved with the space flight industry. Now come on guys, I was upset when they canned Buffy/Angel/Firefly but there are better ways to spend money than raising it for new season - regardless of the show (and how I'd have loved any my favourites to have been extended) and ESPECIALLY STAR TREK!!!!

LET IT DIE!!!!!!

Anyway, it hit the news and you can read the story at Star Trek Campaign 'Raises $3m' (BBC News Online; Wednesday 2nd March 2005)

So please, if you're thinking of giving some money to TrekUnited. Think of the starving in Africa, the homeless on your own streets, Cancer or sufferers of other illnesses and think who 'really' needs that money more.

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the_alleycat
Mar. 2nd, 2005 10:57 pm (UTC)
Now it was obvious why Buffy ended, i never did hear why Angel got canned?
angusabranson
Mar. 2nd, 2005 11:09 pm (UTC)
the_alleycat
Mar. 2nd, 2005 11:24 pm (UTC)
cheers, damn capitalism... grrr
faerierhona
Mar. 2nd, 2005 11:00 pm (UTC)
Or, if you want to donate $3million I will take it and perform an entire new season of Enterprise wearing only a borg thong!

Sorry..

Hmmm...

Yes and no. I can see what you're saying, and agree, but their money, why not? I t brings them joy - like if you or I bought a CD. THAT money could better go towards the starving than to paying the band enough to produce their next album. I don't think there's a huge difference really. Except that it's TV and Star Trek
angusabranson
Mar. 2nd, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
True, everyone should be allowed to spend their money the way they want to. As long as it doesn't cause others harm.

It could be said that any expenditure can cause others harm by the mere fact its not going on helping famine/disease/etc but that's taking it a bit to the extreme.

Point taken about the CD comparison. Still IT IS Star Trek - mental cruelty anyone?
faerierhona
Mar. 3rd, 2005 06:51 am (UTC)
I like Star Trek, in the same way I like Buffy, Popular and The Radio 1 Chart Show.

Harmless, amusing, occasionally irritating, but generaly a good waste of an hour or two.

Babylon 5, on the other hand, is amazing.
jonnynexus
Mar. 3rd, 2005 07:34 am (UTC)
Exactly. It reminds me of the classic technique people use to argue against space exploration, which is to compare it with the money we spend on the starving, ignoring the fact that this money wouldn't go to the starving if we stopped spending it all on space.

I have to admit that when someone says something like, "We should stop spending money on space exploration and give it to the starving instead!" I feel like saying, "Women spend more money on cosmetics* than we spend on space exploration, so how about they give that money to the starving and we'll carry on exploring the mysteries of the universe and building a path to new worlds for the human race!"

* Not that I've got anything against women spending money on cosmetics, but for some reason its the thing that's always mentioned when people are explaining how much space exploration costs, and it neatly sums up the point that there are a lot of things we all spend money on which seem trivial and selfish when someone says, "The money you just spent on blah could have saved the life of an African child with diarrhea."
angusabranson
Mar. 3rd, 2005 09:38 am (UTC)
The thing with space exploration (over Star Trek and women's cosmetics) is that space exploration could be incredibly beneficial to humanity and science.

I guess the arguement for Star Trek is that can also be beneficial to science as it encourages and enthuses (sp?) people to get interested and involved with science.

In any case, I still think $30mill is a lot of money.
jonnynexus
Mar. 3rd, 2005 10:20 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I'm not in any way saying that Star Trek is particularly beneficial - and (IMHO) Enterprise certainly isn't.

I'm just pointing out that we all spend large portions of our income on goods and services we don't actually need to survive when we could be donating that income to charities to help the starving. And I'd say that the money people are giving to Enterprise doesn't come out of their "money I give to charity" pots but their "money I spend on cool thing I like" pot.

It's an awful lot of money, but how much do people spend every year on mock lightsabres and 6 inch high figures of Han Solo?

And if you found out that Paramount had (say) sold £30 million of Enterprise DVDs in the last year - would that seem as weird to you as this?

I think the only reason why this feels weird is that it's not being transferred in the conventional capitalist way that we are used to (paying specific amounts of cash for specific goods and services) but in a non-capitalist way reminiscent of open-source software projects (where people who use the software sometimes donate money and hardware to the programmers who write it).

In general, I think it's a cool way of doing things.

It's just a pity they picked a steaming pile of crap like Enterprise. What on Earth are they thinking? :)
_grimtales_
Mar. 2nd, 2005 11:24 pm (UTC)
On the other hand...
Dreams and stories, inspirations and imagination are important things too. You can't be worthy all the time and we need to inspire people to look to the stars once again.

On the other hand, Enterprise is a big bag of wank.
corone
Mar. 3rd, 2005 12:36 pm (UTC)
Re: On the other hand...
I agree with the first bit a lot.

Did like Enterprise, and the 4th season was meant to work better,
but I agree it is time to let it fade away.

But if people want to start a campaign to save what they love then I'm behind that.
sherbetsaucers
Mar. 3rd, 2005 01:22 pm (UTC)
Re: On the other hand...
I didn't know you had this LJ. VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY intersting.

HELLO!
sherbetsaucers
Mar. 3rd, 2005 01:21 pm (UTC)
Well, I reckon you couldn't be more wrong.

Like or dislike Star Trek it boils down to the fact that people spend money on things they enjoy. Take a look at your collection of role play games or board games. I know a hell of a lot of role players who buy books and then don't ever run the games. Now that money there could have been given to any one of the causes you mentioned. However, if you give to the STar Trek fund and also watch the series, that money isn't wasted. Indeed, if you regually give to charity anyway and also give to the star trek fund, extra well done you.

Saying that donating money to this cause isn't worthy is like saying spending any money on something you enjoy isn't worthy. I quite like stuff, so I think you're wrong. :)
sherbetsaucers
Mar. 3rd, 2005 01:21 pm (UTC)
Well, I just read all those other comments, looks like I'm not exactly alone.
angusabranson
Mar. 3rd, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I ate my words :p
toddderscheid
Mar. 5th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
Always weird to comparison-shop...
http://www.wired.com/news/school/0,1383,52743,00.html?tw=wn_ascii

$37 million for wireless Ibooks for four years for every 7th & 8th grade student and teacher in Maine.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm

The US public debt (divided by US pop, that's $15,2551.34 per person.)

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BEAR

29 million bucks - Market capitalization of Build-a-Bear.

I'll refrain from posting anything about General Motors bonds; suffice it to say if I had borrowed over a billion smackers, I'd be busting my ass to sell more cars, too.

PS stopped watching TV except by proxy from the other room. Didn't care for a couple of random Enterprise episodes I watched, but hey, more power to those folks. It worked for Family Guy.


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