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I'm very surprised to see a number of my friends thought that saturday's episode of Doctor Who was one of the best in the current season so far.

Now admittedly I've only seen a couple of other episodes so far of Season 3 but if Saturdays was one of the best then I really dread to think what the others have been like.

I found Saturdays episode very dull and pretty much a carbon copy of the episode with the black hole in Season 2 in several places. I certainly didn't feel it 'gave' anything to the Who-mythology or was actually entertaining. It did have a few highlights but they basically involved Martha's mother.

Anyway, hope I disagree with the others who liked it by liking all the episodes they apparently didn't!

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slev
May. 21st, 2007 08:43 am (UTC)
I missed the proceeding episode due to moving house that weekend. Discounting that one, the best thus far was Shakespear(e)...
corone
May. 21st, 2007 08:56 am (UTC)
I thought it was one of the best, but prefered the Shakespere one too.
This season I thought has been consistantly good.
I think last season suffered from them having to work on Torchwood as well.

Rather unfair to say it was a copy of the Black Hole episode.
They had just returned to that time period to expand on what we know about it.
The episode itself wasn't that similar at all.

Mind you, that is what is so good about Dr Who.
It has so much potential for variety, not everything is going to grab you.
If you like every episode they are probably not pushing the envelope very hard.
Mind you, I did like pretty much every episode! :-)
sack_boy
May. 21st, 2007 09:32 am (UTC)
At one point in TIP/TSP a display gives the date as 43k2.1 - presumable 43,002 ish (maybe even January?)

RTD in the Radio Times states that 42 was set in the 42nd Century, ie 41nn.

Not the same era. Probably.
corone
May. 21st, 2007 09:38 am (UTC)
I couldn't tell you what the date was meant to be for the Impossible Planet.
But both stories seemed to have the same time frame regardless and thats good enough for me. :-)
angusabranson
May. 21st, 2007 09:43 am (UTC)
seemed to have same timeframe/seemed to have same plot.

Both = trapped on a starship
Both = Starship going to crash into black hole/the sun

First = original/cool
Second = dull/come on Russell, I'm sure you have more than enough ideas than to have to repeat yourself!
corone
May. 21st, 2007 03:38 pm (UTC)
Actually...

1- Set up a base on an asteroid to observe a black hole
story - what is the mystery of the planet and the evil there
2- Stuck on a ship crashing towards the sun
story - how can the ship be stopped (in real time btw making it more interesting)and why is the bad guy attacking

First, very cool first part let down by less good second part
Second, not a copy just because it is set in the same time period.

:-)
eryx_uk
May. 21st, 2007 01:17 pm (UTC)
Impossible Planet was the same year, 42002.
corone
May. 21st, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
Yay, well found. :-)
kekhmet
May. 21st, 2007 08:59 am (UTC)
people thought it was the best? hmmm. I thought it was enjoyable, but a bit of a pot-boiler really
gallowglass
May. 21st, 2007 09:22 am (UTC)
I don't think it was the best of the season but neither do I think it was a particularly bad episode. A series can't be made up of superlatives, there have to be average episodes and a lot of the old DW episodes didn't give anything to the Who mythology either.

This was more of a character piece, balanced to share the meat of the plot out more equally between the Doctor and Martha, now that she's his companion formally, not just someone along for a ride. On those lines, I think it did quite well and the parts with Martha's mother kept the season's underlying theme bubbling along now we're moving into the homeward leg.

Generally-speaking, I think this season is coming off better than the previous two. It's more settled, less jittery, with a better idea of what works and what doesn't but still with the freedom to experiment, as they did with the real-time aspect of this episode. Best of the season? No, I don't think so but it definitely serves a purpose in the structure of the season overall, in my opinion anyway.
corone
May. 21st, 2007 09:37 am (UTC)
I'd agree with that.
cholten99
May. 21st, 2007 01:27 pm (UTC)

> A series can't be made up of superlatives, there have to be average episodes

Have you seen Firefly? ;-)
corone
May. 21st, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
The Message, Bushwhacked :-)
cholten99
May. 21st, 2007 07:09 pm (UTC)

Personally I think The Message is great. Agree about Bushwhacked though...
gallowglass
May. 22nd, 2007 01:41 am (UTC)
Yes, seen it then bought the DVDs. Great show but not lacking in average episodes. Not even Joss Whedon can create a show solely made up of superlatives. A look at the later seasons of Buffy makes this painfully obvious.
snesgirl
May. 21st, 2007 10:33 am (UTC)
no no no no no no no no NO.
has the world gone MAD?

the best episode so far is OBVIOUSLY the one with everyeone stuck on the motorway.

So ner :P
djonma
May. 21st, 2007 10:35 am (UTC)
When the guy had his eyes closed and first opened them, I thought they were going to be demony like in the black hole episode!

But then I thought it was rather good.
Yeah it was a bit too similar in parts, but I loved the idea of the sun being alive!
angusabranson
May. 21st, 2007 12:58 pm (UTC)
**When the guy had his eyes closed and first opened them, I thought they were going to be demony like in the black hole episode!**

I must admit I thought he was going to go 'Cyclops' (as in the X-Men) on whomever he looked at.
replicantlizard
May. 21st, 2007 12:59 pm (UTC)
hmmm -didn't see this one - but I was rather taken by the recent Dalek episodes. There were some Dalek gems in those two episodes - such as the two daleks scheming in the corridor - when one checks 'over his shoulder' to check no one is listening. That and the general hateful sarcasm that some of the dalek lines delivered. But really what struck me was how well the daleks work in a 1920-1930 art deco era - they're designed for it!
eryx_uk
May. 21st, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC)
I found the others a tad lack luster that while enjoyable didn't go anywhere for me.

The Daleks were well out of character for their race, even considering that they could imagine. Daleks would never contaminate themselves like that. The Dalek Emporer was rather insane so I can let that go, but although it was a good two-parter it could have been better written.

42 was the best for me because it was fast paced, kept going with out being repetative (Lazerous Experiment, I'm looking at you), and I cared enough about the NPC's... supporting characters that I didn't want to see them get killed off. For me, it was a much better episode than the prior six.

But thats just me.
(Anonymous)
May. 21st, 2007 01:36 pm (UTC)
Must admit, I really liked it - really didn't like the Dalek 2-parter this season. Yup, Gridlock was excellent, with a great mid-episode twist (Liked the reveal that they'd been there for years)...

42 was pretty cool, nice and up tempo... but it looks like next week's 2-parter is gonna be the biz...

I find most of the episodes get better if you watch them repeatedly. I went back and watched Love and Monsters (the one everyone hates from season 2) and really enjoyed it on a second watch...

Frankie
incandescens
May. 21st, 2007 03:15 pm (UTC)
I found it quite enjoyable, if nothing spectacular.

Actually, if it was similar to anything, it was similar to the _Planet of Evil_ story from the Tom Baker period. Antimatter removed from weird planet for research into fuel source, "possessed"/mutated people trying to kill, living planet/antimatter universe wanting the antimatter back.

Less screaming from the Doctor, though. ;)
greeba
May. 21st, 2007 04:47 pm (UTC)
I thought they could have done another fanboy wink by saying that the lifeform was akin to another living in the core of the Earth, and that the wandering possessed guys were Primords.
cookwitch
May. 21st, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
I liked it actually.
First: it wasn't written by Russell Twee.
Second: I watched it with a bunch of geeks and Dr Who fans in a large pub and there was a resounding cheer when the writer's name came up and it wasn't RTD.
Third: It engendered some entertaining catcalls from the audience. (When they were running about all over teh ship "Cone on! You've only got 7 crystals!")
Fourth: It was good and nicely done and the sun was ALIVE. *grin*
mr_rakshasa
May. 22nd, 2007 08:16 am (UTC)
They don't all need to "give" anything to the Mighty Mythos of Who. Sometimes people just like a story about a dude trapped on a spaceship that's falling into the sun. Which this was.
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