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Pope Benedict XVI has decided not to ease himself into the role and gone head-first into condemning Spain's government and calling upon Roman Catholics there to be perpared to loose their jobs and not carry out the law. The law in question? Spains government has had the audacity to legalise Gay Marriage and allow Gay couples to adopt.

The head of the Vatican's Pontifical Council on Family (Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo) denounced the legislation as profoundly iniquitous.

New Pope Condemns Spain Gay Bill (BBC News On-Line; Friday 22nd April 2005)


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Apr. 22nd, 2005 03:33 pm (UTC)
he's friends with george bush isnt he?
Apr. 22nd, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC)
Not necessarily. They might have similar policies in some areas but the US' foreign invasion policy does hardly meet with approval at the Vatican. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, Bush isn't a Catholic so condemned to hell anyway.

Argh, what am I doing defending him?
Apr. 22nd, 2005 04:01 pm (UTC)
That didn't take long. He isn't even inaugurated yet...
Apr. 22nd, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC)
Go Spaniards!
Apr. 22nd, 2005 04:45 pm (UTC)
Well, at least its one in the eye for the people who were scoffing at those who get their info through the internet.

"No, no, don't be silly, of COURSE he isn't an evil fascist dickhead! Read The Times like I do, Mehhhhh"
Apr. 22nd, 2005 05:38 pm (UTC)
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. Now I know the bible isn't "The Word Of God" like the Koran, but it is a set laws. When you break them, your going against god, because the laws represent his desires for the human race.

If you want to follow a religion doesn't consider homosexuality a sin you CAN'T be a Catholic IMHO. That doesn't mean you can't be gay and Catholic, but you have to accept your damned and will burn in hell.

Funnily enough I was quite pleased with the new Bavarian pope. He is going to turn so many liberal catholics away from their religion. :)
Apr. 22nd, 2005 07:26 pm (UTC)
That's not the problem. Th e problem is trying to force sacred law onto secular society.

Ge can say @Catholics should not enter into homosexual relationshis, and the catholic church will not perform homosexual marriages', but it's wrong of him to oppose such a ruling.
Apr. 22nd, 2005 09:37 pm (UTC)
At which point the people must decide if they are Catholics or democrats, becuase the church is meddling in politics.
Apr. 22nd, 2005 05:48 pm (UTC)
well he was in the hitler youth when he was younger
even though he said he was forced to join
anyway as far as I can see once a nazi always a nazi
Apr. 22nd, 2005 05:53 pm (UTC)
Ever male 14 years and older HAD to be in the Hitler Youth. No exceptions. That was part and parcel of being German regardles sof whether you liked it or not.

It's the same as saying every male in this country has to be a member of Labour Youth, Conservative Youth, LibDem Youth or whatever.

You couldn't get out of it unless you wanted to go to a ncie cozy little camp somewhere and never be seen again.

Most Germans in the 30's and 40's were not Nazi's. Most of the armed forces weren't even Nazi's.
Apr. 22nd, 2005 09:09 pm (UTC)
What Angus said.
I had a prof in grad school who was on a German U-boat during WWII and he definitely wasn't there because he believed in the propaganda - he wanted to keep his head on his shoulders.

Of course, this doesn't mean I *like* this pope, just that I am not going to convict him of naziism without more evidence than just having been conscripted like the rest of the country.
Apr. 22nd, 2005 10:55 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Angus.
Apr. 22nd, 2005 09:05 pm (UTC)
I knew there was a reason I love Spain.
Apr. 23rd, 2005 12:32 am (UTC)
Just one little thing about the story;

It's a pretty inaccurate headline.

"New Pope condemns Spain gay bill" - featuring zero quotes from the pope, zero reported comments by the pope related by secondary sources, and indeed zero reference to the Pope at all in the story after the first sentence.
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