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Can I just say WOW!

We (Leisure Games) have done amazingly well with the new edition of Warhammer FRPG (probably about 150 copies or thereabouts) and the supplements have been flying off the shelves as well. Black industries have a release schedule that most companies would die for (plus some really cool *other* games coming out in the next few years) and they have done so well with WFRPG that they are about to reprint.

What does this mean? Well for a start it means they sold in excess of 20,000 copies so far because the first print run was in excess of that! And that's in English and not counting the French, German, etc...

This just goes to show that RPGs are very much alive IF you have the correct property and promotion behind them. Most companies these days struggle to print 2000 let alone sell those 2000 in the first few months.

Go well done to everyone at Black Industries and Green Ronin. Keep up the amazing work!


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May. 11th, 2005 04:44 pm (UTC)
That's not bad at all. And from what I hear, it's very good, too.
May. 11th, 2005 04:53 pm (UTC)
It does help that they've done a good job on it.
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May. 11th, 2005 05:10 pm (UTC)
Just shows what they know...
May. 11th, 2005 06:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah they said about 3/4 months ago that there are less than 2000 rpg players in the UK. I wish a third of all RPGers here turned up to Dragonmeet, but I don't think so...
May. 11th, 2005 06:19 pm (UTC)
...and I wish that all the UK ROGers shopped at Leisure Games (and then a few extra for measure if there was really only 2000 over here :p)

The article was written by a very fresh-faced newbie at GW apparently who didn't have any real facts about the RPG industry and, by the sounds of things, GWs own history.
May. 11th, 2005 06:32 pm (UTC)
Oh to be fresh-faced again :D
May. 11th, 2005 06:41 pm (UTC)
The book has also done very well at Wayland's Forge. We sold fifty copies inside the first month. Its success is down to two factors -- first the nostlagia value, and second, the fact that the game is, and always has been the number one British RPG.

And it should be pointed out that game has hardly been promoted. Imnagine what would have happened had the game been sold in Games Workshop stores? If they pushed it directly rather than let it go through the normal RPG channels.

As to the success of the game, let us not forget the efforts of Green Ronin Publishing. They developed it into the game it is, proof that they were the right people to do the job.
May. 11th, 2005 06:50 pm (UTC)
May. 11th, 2005 06:51 pm (UTC)
My American WFRP Horror Story
I live in the Boston area and we're lucky enough to have several game stores in the area in addition to not one but two Games Workshop stores. So on the day the core book came out, I thought I'd have no trouble picking up three copies. Our group had playtested the game, and we wanted hardcopies of the final version.

First I tried the Games Workshop store. They said they wouldn't carry the RPG stuff. Then I tried another nearby store. The owner said they'd bought a WFRP book once "and it took a year to sell." The store nearest my house said that even though they carried plenty of other GW stuff, they wouldn't carry the RPG because "no one would buy it" even though I was right there asking for multiple copies. In their favor he did offer to special order it for me. Finally I went into Boston to the Complete Strategist and they had a couple of copies. The CS store was unique in that 1) it had stock and 2) carried complete lines of games (like Feng Shui). CS is now my FLGS and I've been back to buy from them for all the new WFRP stuff, but even they only had two copies of the core rulebook and aren't ordering very deep: I'm not sure if someone comes -after- me if they'd find the books until they reorder (which they do).

Other US shops I've been to in the meantime do have the books: Modern Myth in western Massachusetts and Days of Knights in Delaware. The thing those shops have in common is that they stock complete lines. Hmmm.

I think the WFRP would have similar success here in the states if stores actually ordered it (or ordered more than one). Even though I don't like fantasy RPGs or percentile systems I've enjoyed WFRP quite a bit, and we play it every Friday.

Does anybody know why the Games Workshop stores won't carry it? Is this true in the UK too? It's not like it would take up excessive amounts of space.
May. 11th, 2005 09:02 pm (UTC)
Re: My American WFRP Horror Story
GW turned their back on RPGs ages ago- They've only been doing tabletop stuff for at least 6 years, if you include the short time they sold WFRP when Hogshead published it. I think they gave up on selling RPGs when they realised that 40k was a gateway drug.
May. 11th, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
It has another bonus, and to me this is the biggest selling point.

It's not d20, and the original Warhammer FRPG was quite good, even if the system was clunky.

Also I think part of the sales problem for small comapanis is the way the US distributors work. It's a bit loke the old school network, unless you know the right people or do the right things you don't stand a chance with them. I would say the distributors are going to suffer if te d20 bubble finally does pop.

May. 12th, 2005 12:14 am (UTC)
"I would say the distributors are going to suffer if te d20 bubble finally does pop."

It already has, and a bunch went under. It seems pretty stable (if precarious) right now.

Alas, there aren't really any distributors like Esdevium in the US.
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