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A 7/7 Comment

I'm going to try and keep my commentary on todays anniversary of the London Bombings to a minimum. Otherwise I'll just start ranting.

Basically four guys destroyed their lives and those of many otehrs for what has really ended up being nothing. The only difference they've made has been more paranoia between communities. Something I'm sure their taskmasters wanted but they probably didn't. They wanted to make a statement about Britains - and the West in general - attitiude and meddling in Middle eastern affairs. We're fighting an illegal war in Iraq and have made no real strides in sorting out the Palestine problems. I can understand the frustrations they felt either if I'd never condone their actions. They should have looked at otehr ways to make their voices heard. Many of the people who were killed last year would probably agree with them about the War in Iraq. London alone had almost 2 million people march against the War before America/Britain invaded Iraq. Britain - and London - are very sympathetic to the problems of the Palestinians and Iraqi's. Our government might not be but the civilians here certainly are.

Anyway, the whole paranoia issue is stupid imho. We've had bombs in London before and we'll no doubt have them again. I grew up with the IRA bombings and no one let it really interfer with life. The latest paranoia is largely media and government induced. The media needs stories and the government needs us to be fearful in order to allow them to introduce more draconian laws and limited our civil rights and freedoms without us kicking up a hell of a fuss.

The London bombings killed 52 people.

52 people.

Yes that is a loss.

But as a another friend on LJ pointed out today London  looses 216 people to raod accidents each year. How many people die from smoking each year? 52 seems a very small number compared to that. Yeet we have the 'War Against Terror' and the mass hysteria that goes along with it when I feel we should really have the "War Against Smoking" the "War Against Poverty" and a ton of other "Wars" which will save a lot more lives in the long run and also promote a much better standard of living and goodwill for the same price we're paying for a war that is divisive and largely unneccesary.

I had three friends involved in narrow misses in the London bombings last year (one on the Kings Cross train and two near the bus bombing). I am glad they survived relatively unscathed and am saddened for the loss of life and physical/mental harm that did occur. But I'm damned if I'm going to join the media circus that it's developed into.

We know what caused it but todays government isn't going to bother doing anything about it. It suits them too well to have this 'war and paranoia'..

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davywavy
Jul. 7th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)
I had three friends involved in narrow misses in the London bombings last year

Four! I come through Kings X every morning at 8:45, and they bombed it at 8:51. Presumably I walked past someone with a ticking backpack on the escalator.
glaelia
Jul. 7th, 2006 11:02 am (UTC)
Me too, I walk through at 8.50. Or did, then.
davywavy
Jul. 7th, 2006 12:55 pm (UTC)
I reckon there's 200,000 people could say the same as us...
glaelia
Jul. 7th, 2006 08:45 pm (UTC)
Absolutely. Doesn't make it feel any less weird unfortunately!

I love London still, and I don't feel unsafe there - but I've just landed a new job outside London, and a part of me is very glad.
gbsteve
Jul. 7th, 2006 10:12 am (UTC)
I feel strangely unconnected to the bombings.

I was on holiday in Nashville when it happened. Americans started saying "sorry about what happened" to us and we didn't really know what they were on about. Then we found out and emailed our families to make sure they knew we were OK, then we just got on with our holiday.

I don't think I know anyone who was directly involved and when we got back to work 10 days later, nobody was really talking about it anymore.

It's the same as getting the Olympics, something that happened in the past to someone else.

I've been directly affected by bombing before. Our school got evacuated a few times in the early 70s and Woolworths burnt down, possibly as a result of terrorist action but there didn't seem to be the same level of media coverage. Coverage that is all the more strange as I don't feel connected to the events.
kostika
Jul. 7th, 2006 10:59 am (UTC)
With a hate that burns as hot as the heart of the sun, I hate the phrase "war on terror" and I hate its use by the government and Bush.

A year ago today I was panicing at around this time. But we've gone on and we've not let it stop us.
ian_wyrdness
Jul. 7th, 2006 11:02 am (UTC)
I'm damned if I'm going to join the media circus that it's developed into.

Same here. We're supposed to be having a 2 minutes silence in the office right now, but people don't seem to be taking a lot of notice of it.
sherbetsaucers
Jul. 7th, 2006 11:20 am (UTC)
Try sayign that the day after the bombing, you would be suprised how many peopel stop liking you for a while! ;)
angusabranson
Jul. 7th, 2006 11:57 am (UTC)
Generally I was saying exactly the same at the time. Looking back at my posts from 7th July onwards last year I was definetly thinking along the same lines.
sherbetsaucers
Jul. 7th, 2006 01:41 pm (UTC)
I just eneded up reading yoru review of the DaVinci Code and disagreeing with a lot of the comments you got.
angusabranson
Jul. 7th, 2006 01:47 pm (UTC)
Disagreeing with a lot of the comments I got or alot of the comments I made?

I didn't like the book and surprisngly (for once) thought the film adaptation was better (still thught it was poor though :p).
sherbetsaucers
Jul. 7th, 2006 02:04 pm (UTC)
Comments others made.

And as I said, I'd actually quite like to watch the movie, even though the book made me want to vomit from my own eyeballs.
goldmoonrj
Jul. 7th, 2006 11:45 am (UTC)
Agreed. People should be more worried about the motivations of those who concocted the 7/7 plan in the first place, but that never seemed to be the case. It's a shame, really.
mrwarfrog
Jul. 7th, 2006 12:19 pm (UTC)
Most of what you say I agree with.

However (you KNEW there was gonna be a however!), the US and UK governments being sympathetic to the Palastinians cause is not gonna make a blind bit of difference. The Palastinians fought and died on behalf of the British during the war. The did it with the promise of a Palastinian homeland afterwards. The were screwed by the British, screwed big time, and they will NEVER forgive us. We handed them over after making promises we could never keep.

British promises to the Arabs & Jews, the British occupation of the Holy Land after the defeat of the Ottoman Turks in 1917, the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1917, the Balfour Declaration surrounding a Jewish homeland in Palestine and the subsequent British Mandate

There were many locations for a Jewish homeland other than Israel. Uganda, most famously, Canada and Australia, even Iraq, Roosevelt, even had a plan to resettle Jewish refugees in the Alaska Territory. However, Palastine was chosen and the Palastinians believed that the British had screwed them over and THATS why, no matter how many good intentions the Brits come up with regarding Palastine, we can never be trusted.

It's a bit like The Church of England sending one of their people to negotiate with MUSLIM captors who have kidnapped someone. Not a good idea...oh, but we did THAT too.!

(Anonymous)
Jul. 8th, 2006 10:13 am (UTC)
If you know such a lot about Palestine why can't you spell it?

Are you seriously reviving the idea that Jews should have been relocated in Iraq?

Israel is the homeland, the symbolic and actual fatherland, and the return of the Jewish people to a homeland there is at the centre of all their religion and cultural orientation. If you don't understand this, and the negative power of the image of the wandering Jew, you have no place commenting on this issue.

I doubt whether the 18-year-old who blew himself and a lot of innocent people up last July 7th had ever heard of Balfour. Or the Sykes-Picot agreement. He was just a hateful lunatic.

Maybe the Palestinian Arabs have had a raw deal. (Not, historically, by any margin, such a raw deal as the Jews, of course.) I would certainly not want to be one. But - Angus - you must grasp the reason that terrorist attacks are a graver issue than road deaths in the capital. We cannot accept a society in which people who sit on a crowded train or bus and detonate a bomb can be apologized for by anyone in any way. Road deaths are accidents and may have any number of more or less random causes. You are comparing that to intentional mass murder.

You should also be aware that your comments have appeared in The Times online. It may be acceptable in your circle to say the things you do, but you should be aware that you risk exposing yourself to ridicule in the 'real' world.
angusabranson
Jul. 8th, 2006 02:45 pm (UTC)
**You should also be aware that your comments have appeared in The Times online. It may be acceptable in your circle to say the things you do, but you should be aware that you risk exposing yourself to ridicule in the 'real' world.**

Thanks for the heads up on The Times article. Anotehr friend has this morning posted the link to it for me too.

It is interesting to see the quote they took. For starters they missied out the beginning of that first sentence which mentioned I'd seen the road figure deaths on anotehr friens journal - and I believe he actually got them off Newsnight or another BBC program just shown that comapred the figures between the 7/7 bombings and other problems the Capital faces.

Hopefully anyone that follows the link will read my entire commentary on the subject and not just the quoted section! (Although I have many friends who are journalists - and do write myself - it always amazes me what people can do with quotes :p).

The jist of that quote though should be taken in the context of how many billions are we spending on the 'War Against Terror' when that money could go to many other good causes fighting poverty, disease, helping education and releaving the third world from its debt - all of which would help combat the root of terrorism in the first place.

Terrorism largely comes about through social problems and a sense of injustice. One of the biggest recruiting tools al-Qaeda could ever have hoped for was the mismanaged 'liberation' of Iraq. Now I'm not saying Saddam was a nice guy and should have remained in power but I do feel that the world should have gone about it very differently from the way certain nations took upon themselves to do it.

You need to tackle many issues in order to defeat terrorism - or at least remove the large pool of volunteers and donations that terrorism relies on. You will never be able to defeat Terrorism completely - there will always be extreme fundamentals who will fight for their beliefs. But at present the global situation is not helping the moderates and certain countries actions are certainly helping al-Qaeda's and other radical organisations causes more than hindering them.

Terrorism - and any crime - is a major issue. But I do feel the 7/7 attacks have been blown out of proportion. London has had decades of terrorist attacks (mainly homegrown because of the problems in Northen Ireland) and we've never experienced a media circus around them like we have with last years bombings. Having 24 hour news services desperate for stories to attract viewers (and 'scare' stories along with 'scandals' are two of the very biggest top raters for news outlets) combined with a government who relies on the terrorist card to try and push through measures to help 'protect' us whilst slowly eroding our civil liberties both make a mix of hysteria and something that many people would not be overly worried about had it not been for the constant attention it is given.
adders
Jul. 10th, 2006 01:41 pm (UTC)
Angus, do you have a link to that Times online piece?
angusabranson
Jul. 10th, 2006 02:04 pm (UTC)
Sure - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2260961,00.html

They also linked to a friends LJ in another of their articles about the bombings too.

I posted about both articles further up on my LJ (with links).

Best wishes, Angus
mrwarfrog
Jul. 8th, 2006 10:33 am (UTC)
I'm replying to myself merely so the perosn who just posted anonymously can read this.

At no point above did I advocate the Jews returning to Iraq, I merely stated that this was the reason that the British people are distrusted.

Read!

cholten99
Jul. 7th, 2006 02:02 pm (UTC)
Good guardian article
On the difference between the US 9/11 and UK 7/7 effects here
replicantlizard
Jul. 7th, 2006 07:32 pm (UTC)
Absolutely, terror is a convienient tool in the big brother government that wants total control over the populous. the same government that wants to offload any responsibility to the private sector (Tories mark II) and have no responsibility for the services provide.

We know where you live, etc, oh, and no, nothings actually our fault...
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