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(From the Orange News Site)
Teenage girl quizzed over MySpace anti-Bush page

A US girl of 14 was dragged out of class by Secret Service agents for calling President Bush an idiot on her MySpace page.

Julia Wilson's internet page, called "So Bush is an idiot but hey what else is new?", infuriated security experts, reports The Mirror.

She also posted the words "Kill Bush" and ran a cartoon of a knife stabbing the hand of the president.

Two federal agents went searching for Julia at her home before finding the teenager at school in Sacramento, California.

After pulling her out of class, they subjected her to a 20-minute interview.

Julia said: "I told them I just really don't agree with Bush's politics. I do not have any plans of harming Bush in any way. I am very peaceful. I just don't like Bush."

She said the agents warned her she could be locked up for making the threat.

Dad Jim Moose added: "I don't condone what she did, but it seems a little over the top. You'd think they could determine that she's not a credible threat."


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Oct. 17th, 2006 02:36 pm (UTC)
If you listen very carefully, you can hear the sound of the plot being very slowly lost over there can't you.
Oct. 17th, 2006 02:40 pm (UTC)
i read that too... and keep thinking 'land of the free???? home of the brave?????' so much for the right to say your mind ...
Oct. 17th, 2006 02:49 pm (UTC)
Dear lord...
1) waste f tac payers money
2) someon will get fired over this so close to an election opver there.
3) stupid stupid stupid
4) I wonder if shes been forced to take page down ?
Oct. 17th, 2006 02:56 pm (UTC)
If you think that's disturbing, read this article from the Bee describing the US reaction.
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
Gah. It requires an account, so use mine:

username: heliograph
password: password
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:02 pm (UTC)
i.e. the secret service found the words "kill bush" on a website and, as their remit requires them to do, briefly investigated it and found there was no threat.

As her dad points out "you'd think they could determine that she's not a credible threat" - yes, easily. All it took was a 20 minute interview.
Oct. 17th, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
And yet they still have not turned up on my door. Despite the fact that I am a non-US citizen and non-combatant...

I was hoping for a free holiday to Cuba. I reckon I can stay as long as I want and start eating bacon sandwiches when I want to come home.

And if you think the 20 minute interview was the extent of their investigation, then you are deluded. they would have spent thousands of dollars on the following;

- Extensive Background Check
- Psychological Profiling
- Surveillance of the Suspect (some of which would have been illegal less than 3 months ago)
- Back-up agents/snipers to cover the interview team

Probably about a months work, and there will be the upkeep of a file for pretty much the rest of her natural life.

So hardly a 20 minute non-event as you are implying.

Oct. 17th, 2006 07:41 pm (UTC)
And equally deluded if you think there was a back up sniper team and a huge in-depth surveillance and intelligence operation.

Rather, usual internet trawling finds website that has an arguable threat against the president. Phone field office, agents check up, discover that author is genuinely a 14 year old schoolgirl. Interview girl, eliminate suspicion of a real threat against the President. Job done.

Although they may have to struggle with the "upkeep" of a file being stored in the archives for the next forty years.
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:05 pm (UTC)
The law: Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Now, there's a line between "I'm going to..." and "Someone should..." and what this girl did is hardly a plot, but I'm not surprised that the Secret Service took it seriously enough to investigate and intimidate her. My former mother-in-law is mentally ill and often writes rambling letters, convinced that politicians and other public figures are out to get her. She was investigated for threats against President Reagan (or maybe it was Bush the Elder) when my then-husband was in school and the Secret Service came and interviewed him as part of their investigation.

Oct. 17th, 2006 03:25 pm (UTC)
But she didn't mail it.
Oct. 17th, 2006 04:15 pm (UTC)
Well, ...or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President... probably covers it anyway, my pedantic friend.
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:15 pm (UTC)
This was actually on Livejournal sometime before the last election. It seems to raise it's head every so often. Probably when a journalist can't be arsed finding a real story.

If you google for it, you will probably find this shaggy dog story on wordpress too and etc etc

See you at Essen Angus!
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:27 pm (UTC)
It isn't a shaggy dog story. It is real, and recent. Check out the link I gave earlier: it has pictures, details, the whole nine yards, from a local newspaper.
Oct. 17th, 2006 03:37 pm (UTC)
Quite frankly, if I'd made a website with Kill Bush on it and pictures of him being stabbed, I'd pretty much expect to get a visit.

They determined she wasn't a threat (and that she really was who she said she was online) by interviewing her. 20 minutes out of her life, over and done with.
Oct. 17th, 2006 04:55 pm (UTC)
Ah... so the Secret service have finally found out about search-engines. They catch on fast, don't they? Imagine 10 of them hanging around a pc, inputting the words: 'kill', 'president', 'bush'. Result must have been staggering.

I guess it's clear now that what they mean with 'secret intelligence' is actully, well, intelligence. And not information as we all thought. Perhaps someone should tell them.
(Oops, black car sliding up outside my house. Must go....)

You passed on your cold to me btw, Angus! *very raised eyebrows*
Oct. 17th, 2006 10:53 pm (UTC)
hehe... sorry.

get well soon!
Oct. 17th, 2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
Ah yes, but who watches the watchmen now?
Oct. 18th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC)
I would have thought a more fitting quote would be

"People should not fear their Governments; Governments should fear the people"
Oct. 18th, 2006 02:52 am (UTC)
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either.

-- Mark Twain
Oct. 18th, 2006 03:28 am (UTC)
“America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.”

...Oscar Wilde
Oct. 19th, 2006 08:40 pm (UTC)
"The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either."

Benjamin Franklin
Oct. 18th, 2006 11:12 am (UTC)
Damn straight - slap that pinko commi scum in the slammer - and all her family - just to be sure.

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