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So, if the Scottish Nationalist Party wins up north today a poll will be called to vote on Scottish Independence and breaking away from the current Union they have with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

They may win today too. Although even if they do various polls have shown that the majority of Scots do not favour breaking away from the rest of the Union to form their own country.

But what if they did win the vote for an Independent Scotland?

Would that mean we'd have to reactivate Hadrian's Wall and use it as one big Passport and Customs Control? Afterall, all Scots would be illegal immigrants in England and would need VISA's to stay living and working here because they would no longer be part of the United Kingdom nor would they be part of the European Union which allows free movement of EU citizens.

So, we'd have to deport all the Scots and they'd have to go through all the red tape to come back in. Or wait until Scotland successfully applied for EU membership which could, because of the process, take years!

Hadrian's Wall could be the Scots/English version of the Mexican Border proposals!


May. 3rd, 2007 07:26 pm (UTC)
It is not an English Parliament it is the UK parliament and therefore MPs representing constituencies in Scotland (Note: not 'Scottish MPs') should sit there.

The point about 'MPs representing constituencies in Scotland' voting on issues that only affect England is valid. But many votes either affect everyone or in the case of some taxation the SP only has the power to vary from the UK rate within set boundaries.

Sorry if I've gone on a bit but as a Britsh Citizen who is a Scot I do get a bit tired of this sort of thing. I'd imagine the Welsh and Northern Irish might feel similarly with your conflating England with the UK.
May. 3rd, 2007 07:42 pm (UTC)
I was mostly joking to try and get rid of Brown, and I was groggy and couldn't be boterhed explaining the following:

I do feel very strongly that if there's a devolved parliament, MPs of those parliaments shouldn't be allowed to vote on English concerns.
What that ultimately means is that we should technically devolve England as well (or England and Wales as a single unit assuming Scotland does devolve), so that we have parliaments for N.I, Scotland and England+Wales.
May. 3rd, 2007 10:18 pm (UTC)

If there are devolved local Parliaments, then yes, MPs of those Parliaments should not be allowed to vote on exclusively English concerns.

May. 4th, 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)
Sorry, I shouldn't have over-reacted.

I agree with you that there should be a proper devolved settlement for all parts of the Union.

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