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Old Goth Scene

One thing that Facebook (and Myspace to a certain extent) has made me realise is that there are a lot more people out there who remember me from the Goth/club/live circuit scene from the early/mid-90's than I remember them.

There's been a few people who have friended me with memories about how we met who, even once they have told me, I remember the situations (sometimes) but not always the individuals. Now I know I am fairly bad with names, especially years ago when I was a real social butterfly in so many scenes and clubs, but it really does scare me that I've literally forgotten so many people. I can remember faces of people who used to be fairly close friends on The Scene (tm) whom I'd be hard pressed to put names to.

Now I know this is a particularly hard problem with people you only knew through clubs. You'd end up seeing the people all the bloody time and then end up greeting them and even talking to them for months or years and STILL NOT KNOW THEIR NAME!

I remember one time at the old Electric Ballroom Melissa asking me whom someone was (that I always spoke to and who we always used to energetically greet). I had no idea of his name so Mel found an opportunity to get involved in a conversation with him and said "Hi, I'm Melissa, Angus' girlfriend. Who are you?" - which solved both his and mine own problem of not knowing each others name. Sadly I forgot his again by the next club night... but that's my damn memory for you.

I often find it amusing that I've now been actively floating around in the goth scene in London for almost twenty years. My first goth club was The Catacombs in Manor House back in 1988. My first goth gig was Ghost Dance and Rose of Avalanche at the old Town & Country Club in Kentish Town, also in '88.

I remember Kensington Market being the mecca for Goths, with people like Christian (whatever happened to him?) having stalls down there. I remember dying my hair black, wearing petuli oil, loads of black plastic rubber wrist bands and metal bangles, long black flowing coats, make-up, crimping my hair and otehr fashion disasters (or atleast fashion disasters on me :p).

I loved it. Every minute of it. Still do. Guess I'll always be a Sad Old Goth ;p


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Sep. 25th, 2007 10:00 pm (UTC)
black hair ist just about forgiveable but crimped?
Sep. 25th, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
The Catacombs!

Not you too!!!!!

Ah, but I was there in '86. Lived so close I could stagger home down the hill. The days before the S'burys etc. Still a shoddy place tho.
And yeah, Kensington Market and the always nattily dressed Christian - what *did* happen to him?
Sep. 25th, 2007 11:33 pm (UTC)
christian is still about - I bump into him now and again in the Dev (and it's not like I go there that often these days) and elsewhere.

As for names, the worst I've managed is this girl I've known (not well, ok, but still) for over 5 years, don't bump into her much but whenever I do she calls me by my name and after all this time I STILL haven't got a clue what hers is!
Sep. 26th, 2007 08:45 am (UTC)
Wasn't the cute girl you were talking to upstairs at B-Movie by any chance? Damn shame if it was as both dave and myself were hoping to get her name off you! :p
Sep. 26th, 2007 09:01 am (UTC)
nah, sorry, she wasn't at B-movie and in fact I haven't seen her for months now ;-)

Not sure who it was you are referring to, I can think of at least two cute girls I know who were at B-movie last time, but I'm afraid to inform you they are both attached (one of them in fact is going to get married soon)
Sep. 26th, 2007 12:44 am (UTC)
oh my goodness, i remeber christian!. what a blast from the past/.
Sep. 26th, 2007 08:13 am (UTC)
I bought my first duster in Kensington Market in '87. I was absolutely gutted when I discovered that it was dead.

I had / have a similar thing from my time on #uk_goffs - people I hadn't seen for years were suddenly 'oh my god it's yoooooo' when I returned to the scene after breaking up with Tanya a couple of years back. And it's surreal how many comic friends also have my goth friends on there.

Good times.

Sorry I've not emailed you, I'm crap. Email me at mrtonylee@gmail.com

Sep. 26th, 2007 08:37 am (UTC)
When did Kensington Market close? I think the very last time I was there I got my nose pierced and it must have been '91.

Gig wise I'm not sure what band I saw first - my memory is a little shoddy from the 86-91 but it was either Balaam & The Angels or Christian Death supported by Fields Of The Nephilim (lol) in '86. At the time Slimelight wasn't yet a Goth club but I went there a couple of times when I was 15 and then returned later in 87 when it had gone more gothy. I'm certain I saw The Mission, Fields Of The Nephilim (I know I went to that, I'm on the live video queueing) and Sisters in 1987, but for some reason I didn't think Sisters played in 87.

Where else would we have been going? That place in Ladbroke Grove, Gossips, Electric Ballroom, Wraith, Catacombs are the ones I can think of.
Sep. 26th, 2007 08:47 am (UTC)
The Kit-kat Club was in several locations as I recall. And some place in Woolwich that meant half the night getting back to the "proper" side of town. Alice In Wonderland? I remember getting a flyer for Slimes back in '87 or was it earlier?

OMG I feel so ooooooooooooold now...
Sep. 26th, 2007 09:14 am (UTC)
Slimes was certainly going 1986 but was still more punk, skin & biker. It was even more foul, if that's possible :)

Alice In Wonderland! I remember that :) now where did I leave my zimmer?
Sep. 26th, 2007 08:52 am (UTC)
Sisters had stopped playing live by 87. I think the last gig was at the Royal Albert Hall in '85 (I have the vid somewhere).

Wraith was really the 'Slimelight' of it's day in many ways. I had friends who went regularly but was just that little bit too young. Getting in to Catacombs at 16 (plus some dodgy rock clubs) was about as far as I managed to push it - although with Wraiths door policy (what policy! :p) I would have had no trouble but the idea of an all night squat party (as such) didn't appeal to me so much back then.

Was it The Powerhouse in Ladbrooke Grove? There was also Busby's on Sunday nights at what became the LA2 and is now The Marquee. Plus The Astoria had a rock club on Friday nights (although that might have started more at the end of the 80's). The Hippodrome also started a rock night + live band on Wednesday nights - I remember myself and a friend hitting there when we were both at school (I ended up in a Wraithchild UK video from one of those nights). Also Feet First at Camden Palace (now KOKO) was going strong and they had another night ona Friday or Saturday at The Dome in Tufnell Park.
Sep. 26th, 2007 09:11 am (UTC)
I think the Powerhouse was in Islington, though I might be wrong. The venue I remember from Ladbroke Grove was the Subterrania, is that the one you're referring to by any chance?

As for the kitkat - ah the memories! ;-) By the time I had discovered it ('90/'91) it was basically underneath Charing Cross station and on a Monday (!), but still quite well attented.
Sep. 26th, 2007 09:18 am (UTC)
Odd then I couldn't have seen Sisters, but I'm sure I've seen them live!

I worked/lived at Wraith on and off for about 2 years, it was a splinter group from Slimelight and run by Lisa. There is still one of the old DJs from there around, Ian.

I got barred from The Hippodrome! The had this VIP area for the dressed up, but forgot to put any bar staff in there, so we merrily helped ourselves! Lol.

The Dome, Feet First. Ah yes!
Sep. 26th, 2007 09:08 am (UTC)
kensington market
[oops sorry, I forgot to log on so I'm posting again under my name, apologies if you get this twice]

Kensington Market lasted a long longer than the erly 90s, I'm sure it was still there in 1999, though quite a few of the shops had begun relocating elsewhere by then. It must have finally shut in either 2000 or 2001
Sep. 26th, 2007 08:44 am (UTC)
I never remember anyone's name and my facial recognition is non existant.

This often insults a lot of people...

It's why a facial shot LJ icon should be compulsary, as I chat to so many people on it and don't know what they look like...

I do remember manorisms and distinctive hair/make up/clothes styles but this changes so often in the goth scene it's hard to work out who someone is by thier hair!

Though I find people mostly recognise me because I'm one of the only goths who has long ginger hair and I tend to dress even more over the top than most people. Though the time you met me I was being casual (and hadn't even done my hair and make up!) and it would be interesting to see if you could pick me out otherwise ;p
Sep. 26th, 2007 03:18 pm (UTC)

You're not the onlt one. My facial recognition is pretty good - I rarely forget a face. My memory for attaching names to those faces, is, however, rubbish...

Personally, I'm a big fan of redheaded goths. ;p

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