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Pathfinder RPG

Ok, having finally downloaded the Alpha Playtest version of the Pathfinder RPG today and skimmed through, albeit quickly, I'd say that it is going to take quite a cut from WotC's D&D market - especially from many of those disenfranchised by 4E.

The game 'looks' so much nicer for a start. The artwork is exciting, vivid and fresh. They have apparently (so I've been told by a number of people) cleaned up several bits from 3.5 and made it a better game (although 3.5 was pretty much fien as it was).

Plus being OGL in itself the Pathfinder game will attract a lot of the third party publishers that aren't wanting to follow, or circumnavigate, WotC with the 4E GSL.

You can download the Alpha Pathfinder RPG Playtest rules free of charge from Paizo's website here (you will need to create an account though).


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Jul. 14th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
I have to agree with you across the board about Pathfinder.

Though 4th ed looks nice and all, Pathfinder is more tantalizing to me. For some reason, it seems like the natural progression of "what D&D should be" as opposed to the "reboot feeling" 4th ed provides.

(Note: I'm not a 4th edition hater or anything-- in fact, it seems well put together-- I just like Pathfinder for my D&D needs more.)
Jul. 14th, 2008 09:16 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I'll go give it a try.
Jul. 14th, 2008 10:00 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure I'm interested in a retread of 3.5 mechanics, when it comes down to it. Yes, the packaging's nice, but from playing 4E, I strongly feel 4E is a better game.

Then again, that conclusion alone puts me far outside of Pathfinder's intended audience. And that's OK.
Jul. 14th, 2008 10:20 pm (UTC)
4E is probably a better game - I've heard a lot of very good reports from 4E actual play. It's a shame that it sounds like it plays better than it reads though as I know a number of people who've read the rules and decided it's not for them. I'm certainly aiming to have a game when the opportunity arises to test it out and see what it's like.

I think Pathfinder will do very well though. There are a lot of the 3/3.5 crowd who invested a lot in the system and 4E is a major change mechanics wise for them. Atleast with 1E to 2E and then to 3E you could pretty easily convert anything you were doing with the previous edition. Plus before 3E you had no choice but to update as the rpevious edition was dead and gone when the next edition was published.

Making 3E OGL was very nice and helped a lot of companies, but I really don't think it helped WotC very much. It certainly isn't helping them now. People who were playing 3/3.5 games have no need to update. The game they're playing will still be available with new releases and support due to the OGL. Sure, if you're an Eberron or Forgotten Realms player then source material won't be available (especially as WotC have moved forward the timeline in Forgotten Realms so the setting has experienced major changes since the last edition). But if you play a third party or more generic setting then you'll still have new books waiting for you when you walk into a games store.

I also think Paizo are very good at marketing and will do a very good job at 'selling' Pathfinder as the 'D&D' game people should be buying and playing. Plus their art work is a lot more catching and interesting than a lot of WotC's output. They;ve certainly gone down the more Exalted/MMORPG art look...

Edited at 2008-07-14 10:20 pm (UTC)
Jul. 14th, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC)
I've been toying around with the Pathfinder Alpha book for a bit, and I have to say I am impressed by the quality of the game and the book itself. I can't wait to get my hands on the beta book.
Jul. 14th, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
Paizo puts out some of the nicest looking books in the Industry. Anything with their name on it will have good production values.

This is looking to be a hit for them. It will be interesting to see how much different it is from the core rules of 3ed and how their tweaks alter the game. I like 4e and 3e, but then there hasn't been an addition of D&D I hated. I would give pathfinder a try if it were finished, but I don't like to try rules until they are done.
Jul. 15th, 2008 06:11 pm (UTC)
I first heard of the system on Planewalker forum - like me, they don't think 4th Ed is right for the type of game they want to run. So I'll give this a look.
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